Canna's Grow Thread

Took a few minutes to spread and tie down branches more.

One thing I gotta say is with this organic set up stems and even entire branches are staying very malleable. They are very easy to bend and direct and no worries about snapping at the main stem.

Plant is starting to eat up vertical space now and I forgot to mention I bumped the light up to 40% yesterday too so with that increased ppfd we may see some more growth. Ive been trying to see what the minimum light intensity is I can run veg at and I think right here at 40% is gonna be where I leave it from now on. Not seeing any signs of light stress couple purple stems here and there mainly on the oldest fan leaves. I probably have a bit too much phosphorus in the soil from layering my top dressings with a little BuildAFlower top dress. I know it dont make sense but it was to get a layer of fresh worm castings to introduce microbes directly on top of the top dressings, now that I have rootwise I wont be doing that anymore. Also preflowers are starting to show up, so shes reached the age of reproductive maturity, too small to get a decent pic and from what I can tell only a few have formed so far.

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Forgot to take a pic, but something must’ve changed because my pot was bone dry this morning. Yesterday it still had a good amount of weight to it. Today I went to check and almost fell on my ass.

Watered in 2.5 gallons, 1 gallon bottom watered, the other gallon and a half top watered. Since it was so dry I re-enoculated with rootwise, and used quillaja. Soaked it up well. I also turned the exhaust down 10% and turned down the clip on.

I suspect it got bigger, and surface area of leaves quadrupled, so transpiring more water.

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I guess thats true it has grown alot over the last few days. Im kinda understanding why 15 gallons is the minimum for organics and water only.

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Time for another update.

Alot has happened since I posted last.

Number 1 thing is the accidental dry back from my last post definitely screwed with something. A few days after some interveinal chlorosis popped up on the middle and lower leaves, 2 more days and a few leaves have some very minor rust spots. With this info I can definitely gather that the spring water I get is either swinging ph, which is unlikely, or there is just far too much calcium. Since this happens every grow regardless of method I can safely say that Im going to start cutting my spring water with either RO or distilled water. Im thinking I will just grab a 5 gallon jug and the store and get RO water every week or so. This will save me from having to run to go get the spring water as often as I used to but instead of those runs Ill still be running to the grocery store for RO. After the initial 26 dollar investment for the “water cooler” jug it will only be a couple bucks to fill it again so it wont be horrible and the store is only like 3 minutes down the road. Since Ive gathered that its excess calcium build up I may do a few waterings if straight RO water to strip the excess calcium that built up but Im not sure about that just yet. The decision will be made tomorrow when I go pick it up.

Yesterday I tried to offset the imbalance in thr canopy itself and I misted the canopy with a foliar spray of Epsom salts. Concentration at 1/4tsp per gallon. I used bottled drinking water to be safe. It has made a noticeable improvement in the older and middle leaves but the newer growth is kind of yellow and theres a bit of tip burn everywhere but I expected that. This is a before pics of some of the worst. I know its not horrible but I cant imagine it would have gotten better without a smidge of intervention.

Here is the whole plant about 20 hours later. For reference there was quite a few leaves that looked like the first pic.

There is still good turgor pressure so I know the roots are uptaking water but I think the finer hairs responsible for cation exchange were damaged in the dry back so it may be a little while before things equalize. She is growing pretty vigorously still so I know theres still nutrient cycling happening I just think maybe theres just some minor lockout happening but Im really not worried about it. I just want notes for grows in the future to look back on. I know that in the pic the tops dont look too pale but in person they look much more yellow.

Also I think I will need to start following the craft blend top dress instructions for “large” plants. I know she aint big but she is definitely a heavy feeder after the preflowers show up. The directions say to topdress every 2 weeks. I think I will be doing 1 more full strength top dress then every 2 weeks will be 75%. But that will only be once maybe 2 more times before I flip but I think 1, Im starting to get impatient and I want some smoke. I still need a bit more veg growth though.

Lastly since the preflowers started coming in, the smell is NOTICEABLE. I would say 100% more noticeable than ever before at this stage. I dont know if thats from the build a soil or if its just the kerosene krash. Im going to give credit to the build a soil 3.0. Im getting very distinct wiffs of gas/chem smells and its absolutely wonderful. If its this strong with preflowers and like 0 trichome density I can only imagine what this girl will be like when she starts actually flowering! :drooling_face::drooling_face::drooling_face:

Thanks for stopping by. If anyone has any suggestions about my plan to try and strip that excess calcium out of the soil feel free to comment. Im still new to this organic thing and at this point I would just flush, but obviously I cannot do that.

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So I did my top dress this morning. I used about 15 not overly heaping tablespoons. I wish the directions gave a tbsp per gallon of media instruction but these say 1/4 to a half cup per square foot in raised beds so I just kinda figured I would give a nice thick surface coating. Sprinkled Kashi gold over it and covered it up with the straw and watered it in with about a half gallon from the pump sprayer. Should be good for about 3 more weeks now but I think I will be flipping to flower after that.

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Decided to do a little plant training today as well. The more I thought about it I realized I probably should spread her open a bit more. While I was down there I also realized that the branches growing straight up filling the middle are going to keep getting taller so I topped those at about a node over where I pull the rest down to.

I think Im almost ready to maybe use a scrog net. I dont think Ill need it though. Besides this Im not doing much more.

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So Im thinking about picking up this order next. We’ll see if I can swing it with my next check, then theres a couple In-House strains I wanna pick up and I think my collection will be good enough.

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What did you top dress with?

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Build a soil craft blend

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Nice choice. I’ve got a big bag of build a flower in the garage for flower.

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Ive got build a flower and build a bloom for the flip

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@MasonJarOG

Only problem is I keep letting my pot dry back too much

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I use the ACI moisture sensor and go from 62% and dryback down to 50% and then open the reservoir valve again. Seems to work well and still useful for top dressing and works for my hybrid live coco mix.

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So I think Im going to have to automate watering. Its like 1 day the plant decides to empty the water reserves and then I get fucked.

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Automated watering would be hard for me right now because my plants are 4 different ages and big differences in water needs. I do have 2 timers and 2 pumps so I can have 2 schedules going. I don’t think I’ll be traveling this summer, so hand watering it is.

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Im just at a loss. I lift my pot twice a day and normally Im pretty good at heafting, but it seems like one night just transpires like crazy and I wake up and bam, light as a feather, when the night before it still had significant weight. Maybe I should just start pump spraying half a gallon a day. Just to keep moisture in the pot.

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Kerosene Krash sounds like a nice choice for a single plant test run. Looking forward to seeing how she does in the Build A Soil 3.0.I’ve seen quite a few people having good results with The Seed Pharm genetics in living soil setups lately haave you thought about running anything from them in the future, or are you sticking with Dutch Passion for now?

Well thanks. Its not going great because organics isnt my relm, but Im trying. Im just growing dutch this grow. I grow from various breeders, this is my first DP grow tho. Mostly Barneys Farm and In-house genetics.

Will be updating later today so you can see the chaos

One of the big reasons i got the tray2grows and a moisture meter. I use the moisture meter to track the level in the pots and then switch the reservoir back on when it gets to 50%. I can automate further with a timer valve if needed.

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