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Vivosun should just sponsor me at this point.

Seriously though I’m using a bunch of their products and have nothing but good things to say.

Newest update is an added air pump and some 2x4 air stones.

Running the setups as DWC and changing the way I look at it

(I used to view it as a drip system but since I have my pump on whenever the lights are on, and the roots grow into the reservoir. It is not a drip system and it’s time to stop viewing it has such.)

The second new Vivosun product that I got are these smart plugs. I can plug anything into it and then set it in the grow recipe app.

I have (1) two outlet plug that is for the two lights, and (1) two outlet plug for the pumps. You can also power USB devices with them. Altogether, you can operate four different devices per plug and independently program them on either On/Off cycles or based on temperature/humidity parameters, as they also come with a temperature/humidity probe

They also sell a single outlet plug that I purchased originally, but it is not much more for the dual outlet and they do significantly more.

The last update for the tent currently is I switched from a 27 gallon tote to a 17 gallon.

I feel like the 27 was just over kill, but I still have it so if I ever want to switch back, it’s not a big deal

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Here are a couple photos of the recipe section of the Vivosun grow app.

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More app photos, just because I’m such a big fan, also ignore the tent parameters, I’ve had it wide open as I’m in here working for sometime now.

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Youre right to look at it more like dwc but imo the hybrid system is better than straight dwc. The res temp isnt as important due to increased oxygen and flow. Getting the dissolved oxygen in the res is easier with the runoff pouring back into the res. The cubes are also kinda like lungs. When the pumps are on the solution flowing thru the rockwool pulls oxygen in behind it and when their off the cubes dry up letting oxygen in.

It would be good for 3-4 plants off the same res. The 17 is lower profile making it a little easier to get in there over the top of a plant.

I dont know about others but I like to see some of the setup and whats making the grow work. Automation makes things so much better and really helps with quality. I think we are kinda in the same boat where we got multiple grows and at different stages going on at all times. Itd be really fucking hard to keep everything in check without the automation.

Vivosun seems solid but I only have a tent and a couple panel so cant speak from experience. I might have to give their stuff a chance. Im done with spider farmers customer service. More so their lack of it! lol.

Ask and you shall receive.

It all starts at the Grow Hub. Mine came with the inline fan I purchased, but they can also be purchased individually.

I run mine on a 4 x 8 gorilla grow tent, but they work on any tent. You just use a magnet on the back to mount it to a little metal plate vivosun provide on the inside of the tent.

From this point, grow lights, circulation fans, and duct fans can all be controlled from the Grow Hub. It also has a probe that will go into the tent, so you will now have readings for temperature, humidity and VPD inside of the tent, as well as a sensor on the actual Hub that will provide you with data from outside of the tent.

Next is the AeroStream H19. This is my humidifier.

It has a 19L or just over 5 gallon capacity, and another temperature/humidity probe that comes off of this and goes into the tent, allowing you to set it by temperature/humidity or VPD as well as continuous operation if that is something you’re after.

I keep a 5 gallon bucket of reverse osmosis water next to it and a pump so when I need to refill it, I just plug it in. I have seen others attach a float valve and have it automated, but I don’t have a waterline for my reverse osmosis near me so this was the easiest option.

From there, we move over to the other side of the tent, my AC unit is the Vivosun AeroLush, two hose (really three) unit. This recirculates the air in the tent and cools it extremely quickly, but at the expense of also sucking moisture out of the air.


This also has a temp/ humidity probe that goes into the tent and can keep it set to whatever temp/ humidity you set it to.

Next is the outlets inside the tent, GH-22. These allow me to program my light/irrigation pump/whatever my heart desires and sync it to the grow hub app

I keep my three main probes (grow hub probe, AC probe, and humidifier probe) in a central location in the tent to check that they are all in sync, and have an additional probe at canopy level.

My air pump and stones are also Vivosun, however, they are not any kind of smart accessory. They are just on constantly.


Now all of that pairs to the GrubHub with WiFi, but if you lose Internet, it does still remember how you have it programmed and continue to run in that operation. You can set every parameter however you would like up to four distinct gross cycles, and you can make as many different recipes as you would like. If anyone wants more of an in-depth dive in that I can do that as well.

Next up.

To move over to a different product/app I use the Gidigi 8-1 water meter to check PH, TDS, EC and water temp constantly, and can view from my phone.

I do not have a smart dosing system, I just mix via a batch tank so there’s not really anything I can do with those numbers remotely, but it is very efficient for mixing up my nutrients rather than needing multiple separate meters

And that’s basically it.

Everything can be adjusted from my phone and monitored at any point time.

The ability to program different recipes and have it follow any automation that I desire is awesome, and I’ve been able to tweak it consistently to get it right where I want it.

The app also provides you with logs for all of your data, you can see your data by the minute, you in an hour view, day, week, or month by month even.

To touch on what you said, I like that this gives me the ability to just set it and forget it, I know that as long as all of the equipment runs, the parameters are going to be locked in, and I don’t think about it twice anymore

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Once/if I ever get in a more permanent place I want to have lines ran for auto fill humidifiers and run the plumbing for drains on the dehu and AC. Would be so nice!

You got a nice setup brother. Im not that advanced with it. Spider farmer smart controllers are kinda dumb. lol. Just enough to dial in the environment. I also dont run wifi in my apartment so I have to be in range of bluetooth.

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I agree, I would love to do that as well.

Realistically, I just want an outbuilding/shop so I can get it out of the house.

i’m not willing to make this room permanent home for them, as the room used to be a guest bedroom, and then it was an office for a while…

I can only go so long without a garden before I get the itch, but this is by far the most advanced I’ve ever had my set up.

I was 15 years old with a HPS just COOKING in my closet.

10 x 10 would be great, 12 x 20 would be better. But the tent stuffed in the room works for now.

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I swapped out the smaller adjustable light I have for the larger, old school, Blurple.

It has a larger footprint and my PPFD/ DLI is still in range.

Wild, how much closer it has to be to the plant compared to my newer full spectrum to achieve the same DLI.

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Plants are looking good. Id start giving the adl longer between defols or go a little lighter and start anticipating that big schwazz at the end of the stretch phase. Hard to get a good read but its probably approaching that time? You getting clusters yet?

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ADL is Starting to get some clusters. It was thick In there and definitely needed some breathing room, but I intend to let it do its thing for the next week or two before the big schwaz.

It’s WILD how much faster the anvil is moving along now that it started to flower. It almost immediately started with the Pom poms, and that’s after looking a little sad a couple days ago.

I just finished a big Schwaz on the anvil and unpinned the tops, it’s hard to get a good photo, but the canopy is stretching pretty nice and uniform IMHO

And this is the only before I have… because I’m bad at journaling :sweat_smile:

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@Hangry_hedgehog

The first hole I drilled was a little too low, and the bucket was scraping on the bottom of the tote

Second time it’s a smidge too high so if I put the lid on the right way, the bucket scrapes, but if I have the lid on upside down, it works perfect.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

She may not be the prettiest machine, but I am very thankful for you showing me the concept, and I will keep you updated on when I run some lowers through it. Just chopped Skywalker OG yesterday so in the next 4 to 5 days, I should have some smalls to put in there and test it.

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Anvil

A week after switching to flower nutrients

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AHHHH.

Not to self, don’t do that.

Story time.

-I have a five gallon bucket of RO water I keep on the floor next to the humidifier so that when I need to refill the humidifier, I just turn on a pump in the five gallon bucket and move water into the humidifier, turn off the pump when done.

Boom. Awesome. It works great.

THIS TIME…

I had the 5 gallon bucket with the RO water and the pump sitting on top of a 2nd five gallon bucket, making it higher than the humidifier and causing a siphon effect.

I turned off the pump and walked out of the house. :person_facepalming:

Thankfully, I forgot something and came back to see water running out of the room into the hallway, so I wound up with two gallons of water on the floor instead of five.

Lesson learned.

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She didn’t give you much time to work her!

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Mistakes are in the air! You didn’t have to do all that just to make me feel better about my electricity slip up. :haha:

At least you caught it. 5gal would’ve really been a flood.

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IMHO she has taken to the Scrog amazingly though. Over the next 60 days we are in for a treat.

I have to rip up the sub floor and re do that whole room eventually anyway because it has some soft spots, I just keep putting it off because that means I have to disassemble the whole tent for however long the flooring project takes

So that being said, a flood wouldn’t be the worst thing that could happen, but I’m not trying to make my current situation any worse either :sweat_smile:

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soooooo… The unit sent me a message that said out of water while I was at work last night And when I got home from work super late, I just plugged the pump in to start filling it up, assuming that it was out of water…

Nope, the sensor was unplugged so I started dumping water all over the floor

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Crème de la chem :axe:

The cutest little mutant you ever did see.

After the first real set of leaves, without any influence from me, this plant “topped” (for lack of a better word) itself and formed to separate laterals.

From that point when the net was pushed down on it, it caused the main stem to split directly in half.

Determined to bud it out, constant irrigation was kept on that stem through its whole life.

Today she made it to the finish line.

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Trim I made into bubble hash :slight_smile:

One of these days if I ever have a big enough harvest, I would like to do a whole plant as hash.

My problem is I just like smoking the flower too much :sweat_smile:

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